Yet another one in the ‘How Many Points Do You Need To…?‘ series….
This time, how to avoid the dreaded drop (positions 17-20) in Divisions 1, 2, 3 & 4.
Division One – 40 points
In Season 1, PSG were relegated with 43 points, and Dortmund with 42. Six seasons later, that looks a bit of an outlier, though.
The next highest points total not good enough to survive is Wolfsburg’s 39 last season.
Manchester City’s 35 point haul in Season 4 is the fewest any team has accumulated and still survived.
So it looks like 37 points may be enough, 38 is probably enough, while 40 almost guarantees safety.
Season |
Div |
Pos |
|
Team |
P |
W |
D |
L |
GF |
GA |
GD |
Pts |
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7 |
1 |
17 |
|
VfL Wolfsburg |
38 |
9 |
12 |
17 |
30 |
50 |
-20 |
39 |
5 |
1 |
14 |
|
Manchester City |
38 |
10 |
8 |
20 |
43 |
63 |
-20 |
38 |
5 |
1 |
15 |
|
Ajax |
38 |
10 |
8 |
20 |
41 |
62 |
-21 |
38 |
2 |
1 |
16 |
|
Liverpool |
38 |
8 |
14 |
16 |
42 |
63 |
-21 |
38 |
6 |
1 |
16 |
|
VfL Wolfsburg |
38 |
8 |
13 |
17 |
43 |
59 |
-16 |
37 |
5 |
1 |
16 |
|
AS Roma |
38 |
9 |
10 |
19 |
41 |
60 |
-19 |
37 |
2 |
1 |
17 |
|
Internazionale |
38 |
10 |
7 |
21 |
33 |
59 |
-26 |
37 |
5 |
1 |
17 |
|
AC Milan |
38 |
8 |
12 |
18 |
30 |
58 |
-28 |
36 |
2 |
1 |
18 |
|
AC Milan |
38 |
9 |
8 |
21 |
52 |
67 |
-15 |
35 |
3 |
1 |
17 |
|
Manchester United |
38 |
8 |
11 |
19 |
36 |
55 |
-19 |
35 |
4 |
1 |
16 |
|
Manchester City |
38 |
9 |
8 |
21 |
47 |
69 |
-22 |
35 |
3 |
1 |
18 |
|
Fenerbahçe SK |
38 |
9 |
8 |
21 |
37 |
61 |
-24 |
35 |
Division Two – 43 points
Sporting Lisbon stayed up in Season 2 with just 37 points. Boca did likewise with 38. Both appear to be outliers.
Lyon stayed up in Season 3 with 41 points, the nest lowest survival total.
On the other hand, Swansea were extremely unfortunate to go down in Season 5 despite accumulating a whopping 45 points.
Otherwise, 43 points will secure safety in D2, and 42 will likely be enough – only Southampton last season got relegated with so many points.
Season |
Div |
Pos |
|
Team |
P |
W |
D |
L |
GF |
GA |
GD |
Pts |
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5 |
2 |
17 |
|
Swansea City |
38 |
13 |
6 |
19 |
31 |
49 |
-18 |
45 |
7 |
2 |
16 |
|
Zenit Saint Petersburg |
38 |
9 |
17 |
12 |
33 |
44 |
-11 |
44 |
3 |
2 |
14 |
|
SL Benfica |
38 |
11 |
11 |
16 |
33 |
48 |
-15 |
44 |
4 |
2 |
15 |
|
SL Benfica |
38 |
9 |
16 |
13 |
39 |
50 |
-11 |
43 |
3 |
2 |
15 |
|
CSKA Moskva |
38 |
12 |
7 |
19 |
40 |
55 |
-15 |
43 |
4 |
2 |
16 |
|
Spartak Moskva |
38 |
12 |
6 |
20 |
45 |
55 |
-10 |
42 |
7 |
2 |
17 |
|
Southampton |
38 |
10 |
12 |
16 |
39 |
52 |
-13 |
42 |
2 |
2 |
14 |
|
SL Benfica |
38 |
12 |
6 |
20 |
43 |
59 |
-16 |
42 |
7 |
2 |
18 |
|
Sunderland |
38 |
11 |
9 |
18 |
38 |
55 |
-17 |
42 |
3 |
2 |
16 |
|
Olympique Lyonnais |
38 |
10 |
11 |
17 |
36 |
49 |
-13 |
41 |
Division Three – 44 points
45 points wasn’t enough to save Southampton in Season 1. Likewise Dynamo Moskva with 44.
43 points relegated Monaco in Season 3, and Boca went down with 42 in Season 5.
Crystal Palace survived with 41 points in Season 4, while Fenerbahce went one better last season, staying up with just 40 points.
42 points is therefore the minimum to aim for to have a reasonable chance of survival. 43 would be better, of course, while 44 pretty much guarantees it.
Season |
Div |
Pos |
|
Team |
P |
W |
D |
L |
GF |
GA |
GD |
Pts |
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5 |
3 |
16 |
|
Shakhtar Donetsk |
38 |
9 |
16 |
13 |
43 |
44 |
-1 |
43 |
6 |
3 |
15 |
|
PSV |
38 |
11 |
10 |
17 |
40 |
47 |
-7 |
43 |
3 |
3 |
17 |
|
AS Monaco |
38 |
11 |
10 |
17 |
42 |
56 |
-14 |
43 |
5 |
3 |
17 |
|
Boca Juniors |
38 |
9 |
15 |
14 |
39 |
41 |
-2 |
42 |
7 |
3 |
15 |
|
Leicester City |
38 |
12 |
6 |
20 |
42 |
48 |
-6 |
42 |
6 |
3 |
16 |
|
Galatasaray SK |
38 |
10 |
12 |
16 |
43 |
56 |
-13 |
42 |
5 |
3 |
18 |
|
Crystal Palace |
38 |
9 |
14 |
15 |
38 |
48 |
-10 |
41 |
5 |
3 |
19 |
|
Leicester City |
38 |
10 |
11 |
17 |
41 |
53 |
-12 |
41 |
2 |
3 |
17 |
|
HAMBURGER SV |
38 |
12 |
5 |
21 |
42 |
55 |
-13 |
41 |
6 |
3 |
17 |
|
Aston Villa |
38 |
10 |
11 |
17 |
38 |
53 |
-15 |
41 |
4 |
3 |
16 |
|
Crystal Palace |
38 |
10 |
11 |
17 |
38 |
56 |
-18 |
41 |
Division Four – 44 points
No team has survived the drop in D4 with fewer than 42 points, but realistically, 44 will be needed to stay up. Although even that wasn’t enough for Koln on Season 3.
Season |
Div |
Pos |
|
Team |
P |
W |
D |
L |
GF |
GA |
GD |
Pts |
<!–br {mso-data-placement:same-cell;}
4 |
4 |
14 |
|
Dynamo Kyiv |
38 |
10 |
14 |
14 |
38 |
43 |
-5 |
44 |
3 |
4 |
17 |
|
1. FC Köln |
38 |
11 |
11 |
16 |
39 |
51 |
-12 |
44 |
5 |
4 |
15 |
|
Feyenoord |
38 |
12 |
8 |
18 |
45 |
60 |
-15 |
44 |
6 |
4 |
16 |
|
VfB Stuttgart |
38 |
12 |
8 |
18 |
35 |
52 |
-17 |
44 |
7 |
4 |
16 |
|
Atalanta BC |
38 |
11 |
10 |
17 |
45 |
52 |
-7 |
43 |
4 |
4 |
15 |
|
Girondins Bordeaux |
38 |
11 |
10 |
17 |
31 |
41 |
-10 |
43 |
1 |
4 |
17 |
|
Villarreal CF |
38 |
12 |
7 |
19 |
45 |
55 |
-10 |
43 |
7 |
4 |
17 |
|
Girondins Bordeaux |
38 |
9 |
16 |
13 |
47 |
59 |
-12 |
43 |
1 |
4 |
18 |
|
Feyenoord |
38 |
12 |
7 |
19 |
55 |
71 |
-16 |
43 |
2 |
4 |
17 |
|
RCD Espanyol |
38 |
11 |
9 |
18 |
49 |
59 |
-10 |
42 |
3 |
4 |
18 |
|
Torino |
38 |
9 |
15 |
14 |
38 |
52 |
-14 |
42 |
5 |
4 |
16 |
|
VfB Stuttgart |
38 |
11 |
9 |
18 |
40 |
54 |
-14 |
42 |
4 |
4 |
16 |
|
Feyenoord |
38 |
12 |
6 |
20 |
43 |
63 |
-20 |
42 |
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