2018
Division 4, Round 3 Review
DIVISION 4 ROUND 3 REVIEW
Division 4 round 2 round up
DIVISION 4 ROUND 2 ROUND UP
Proposed Youth Cup and Shield Format Season 8
Thank you to all 42 managers who have registered their teams or their interest in entering the Youth Cup and Shield this season. That’s another 14 in less than a week.
With my team Hamburg, too, that makes 43 in total. One more would make 44, of course, which would set up the possibility of having one Group Stage followed by two separate knockout competitions:
- Youth Cup comprising the top 22 teams in the Group Stage
- Youth Shield comprising the other 22 teams
Unless there's a huge outcry in protest, this is how I propose to run it this season....
Each competition would start on 30 June with matches played for 16 consecutive weeks until the end of the season and the Finals completed on 13 October.
Group Stage
- All 44 teams in 11 Groups of 4
- Matches played home and away, 6 in total
- Groups seeded like last season to give weaker teams a fighting chance of qualifying and the bigger teams something to play for.
- Top two in each Group qualify for the Youth Cup
- Everyone else goes into the Youth Shield
Knockout Stage
- Best 10 Group Winners get a bye into the 2nd Knockout Round
- Leaving the remaining 12 to play in Round 1
- 6 winners from R1, plus 10 byes leaves 16 in R2
- Losers are out - not entry into the Shield
- All Rounds will be over two legs, home and away
- Same format for Cup and Shield
Don't forget to read the rules.
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And update your teams if you have new signings, loans, or player ratings changes since you first registered. You can do this yourself with the Google Form - either edit your original form, or submit a new one, or PM me in game, please.
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Teams Registered
How Many Points Do You Need To Avoid The Sack?
Final issue of the ‘How Many Points Do You Need To…?’ series.
This time, how to keep your job (bottom two, positions 19 and 20, get sacked)!
Division One - 34 points
34 points to keep your job in D1.
33 might be good enough.
32 isn’t.
Simples!
Division Two - 37 points
Ted Powell got sacked by Saint-Etienne last season despite amassing a truly valiant 41 points.
Sunderland finished 18th in Season 2 with a measly 29 points.
You've got a chance with 36 points, but 37 looks like the minimum to aim for in D2.
Division Three - 38 points
Leicester finished 19th in Season 5 with 41 points.
Sassuolo and Internacional did likewise with 40 and 39 points respectively, in the first two seasons.
Marseille finished 18th in Season 6 with just 35 points.
38 points seems to be the magic number to aim for in D3.
Division Four - 42 points
Stuttgart's 36 points last season is the lowest points total to finish outside of the bottom two in D4 history.
The next lowest is Santos in Season 5, who got 38.
Hertha and Olympiacos sacked their managers at the end of Season 1, after they achieved 41 points apiece.
West Brom, Dynamo Moskva and Montpellier all sacked their managers for getting 40 points, but finishing in the bottom two.
40 points might be enough, or it might not. 41 probably is enough, but 42 almost certainly keep you in a job.
Division Five - 40 points
33 points was enough to keep the Partizan manager in his job in Season 2.
36 kept him in post in Season 3.
38 kept the Twente boss in a job in Season 4.
39 wasn't enough to save the Koln manager in Season 6.
38 or 39 points will probably be enough, but 40 is the minimum number to aim for in D5.
How Many Points Do You Need To Win The Title?
Some all season stats on how many points you will likely need to guarantee winning your division…
Also perhaps worthy of note, is that D1 aside, no team has won the same division title more than once. Obviously that will change as the seasons go on, but gives hope to all those trophyless teams that maybe, just maybe, THIS is the one.
Division One - 91 points
In a division utterly dominated by Barcelona and Bayern, a haul of 95 points would seem to be enough to ‘guarantee’ the title, while most seasons 91 would be enough.
It has been won with less, of course. In Season 1, Manchester United won with just 73 points, although that seems like an anomaly now.
The next lowest is Bayern’s Season 5 tally of 88, which I think is a more realistic ‘minimum’.
Division Two - 72 points
Last season, though, Internacional won the title with the lowest ever points tally - 68.
Division Three - 70 points
Division Four - 69 points
Villarreal won it with even fewer - 61 - in Season 3.
Division Five - 75 points
How Many Points Do You Need To Avoid Relegation?
Yet another one in the ‘How Many Points Do You Need To…?’ series….
This time, how to avoid the dreaded drop (positions 17-20) in Divisions 1, 2, 3 & 4.
Division One - 40 points
So it looks like 37 points may be enough, 38 is probably enough, while 40 almost guarantees safety.
Division Two - 43 points
Division Three - 44 points
Division Four - 44 points
How Many Points Do You Need To Get Into The Play-Offs?
Another in the ‘How Many Points Do You Need To…?’ series.
This time, what does it take to make the Play-offs?
Division One - 52 points
No Play-off places to play for in D1, of course, but there is the kudos (and a SMFA Shield qualification place) of a top ten finish.
No team has finished in the top ten without amassing at least 47 points like Porto did in Season 6.
Fenerbahce and Milan managed 3 more points between them in Seasons 1 and 2, and Juventus another two all by themselves in Season 5. Usually, though, 53 points is the minimum required to finish tenth.
Division Two - 58 points
Not since Season 2 has a team achieved 58 points in D2 and not got into the promotion play-offs (positions 4 to 7 in the table) as a result.
But even 57 points should usually be enough (although even then it can come down to goal difference like last season).
62 points would guarantee it. 56 is usually not enough.
Division Three - 57 points
Until last season, no team had failed to get into the D3 play-offs after securing 58 points or more, so both Lyon and Kyiv were unlucky to miss out last time.
Indeed, 57 points are usually enough to qualify, with only PSV in Season 2 missing out with that total.
Division Four - 56 points
58 points guarantees a play-off place in D4, and 57 would usually do the same - but see Espanyol last time.
Realistically, even just 56 points ought to be enough.
Division Five - 57 points
No team has got 57 points in D5 and failed to qualify for the play-offs.
56 points is unlikely to be enough, however. It's really that close.
How Many Points Do You Need For Automatic Promotion?
Following on from ‘How Many Points Do You Need To Win The Title?’ - the second in the ‘How Many Points Do You Need To…?’ series.
Division One - 70 points
Division Two - 66 points
Division Three - 66 points
Division Four - 64 points
Division Five - 69 points
Division 4 Round 1 Review
Division 4 Opening Day Review
Top 100 Roll of Honour
A complete list of all Top 100 trophy winners by season and competition, for teams and managers.
Thank me in the comments ;)
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